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Narcissistic Larva * Member Since 2012-02-23
posté November 12, 2013, 08:03:42 | #201
lol everyones talking about guild leaders taking a 2 month holiday ...but seriously who actually gets a 2 month holiday ! lucky guys ... LOL..im jealous


Nun Shall Pass * Member Since 2012-01-23
posté November 12, 2013, 08:09:29 | #202

Quote (Karakedi @ 12 November 2013 03:42) *

Quote (SSBKewkky @ 12 November 2013 02:55) *
*looks at Karakedi's post*

You know what they say, the last person to realize something bad about you, is yourself.


I'm still good with the update. Looks like it's happening.

Come with a good argument instead of flaming me. I have yet to see a good argument from you. If you are so keen to be a leader then why don't you make your own guild, instead of taking over an existing guild...

Come with a good argument!!!

Also I didn't say that my arguments are bad, they weren't bad because nobody made good arguments against them till now. You are just flaming me for the second time without defending your own point with arguments, all I hear from you is "I want to be leader, f*ck the leader if he decides to go 2 months to a holiday,, oh god forbid the leaders to take a short break :/ You only think about yourself, and you take this game seriously. People have their real lifes what is the big deal if a person wants a 2 months break, as long as he or she is leading the guild consistent the rest of the year?

All I hear is whining from your side and taking a game serious.

Yeah, totally. Because I very much want to be the guild leader of my guild, mm-hmm. Good thing you know everything about me and haven't assumed anything at all throughout this thread. Thumbs up for doing your research!

Also what I said wasn't flaming. You're the one getting angry over text. Nothing that I said was whining, I was simply countering your arguments with those of my own. You're the one whining about the change that's happening whether you like it or not. Calm down.


This post has been edited by SSBKewkky - November 12, 2013, 08:10:22.
Teethless Sharkie * Member Since 2013-10-31
posté November 12, 2013, 08:16:41 | #203

Quote (Merriden @ 11 November 2013 20:39) *


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I don't see the drama you are talking about. It would be better system overall and will cause less drama then the one suggested by Ankama.

If you believe that, then you're lucky to not have experienced the uglier side of an internet community.

I could definitely foresee a group of angry members banding together to overthrow a guild leader and then disbanding the guild out of spite.

Exhibit A: Massive drama in EVE Online.

I could definitely see hostile take-overs happening in any MMO, including Wakfu.

I do agree with Ankama's idea for automatic fail-over, though it could be an interesting option to add an "opt out" possibility.

EDIT:
@ SSBKewkky, I thought you said you were done going back and forth with her?


This post has been edited by Kaitenzushi - November 12, 2013, 08:18:02.
Bellaphone Lover * Member Since 2009-08-30
posté November 12, 2013, 09:09:01 | #204
thanks alot for improving these stuff


Mister Winter Fashion Victim 2012 * Member Since 2012-12-16
posté November 12, 2013, 09:22:16 | #205

Quote (WwhitekrowW @ 12 November 2013 05:45) *
Theoretically - Couldn't the guild leader leave his/her alt as 2nd in command and thereby doubling the time spent away if they are so worried about it?

If I recall correctly the next in command has to have been active within the last 15 days at the end of the leader's 45 days period. Meaning the leader would have had to log the alt within days 30 to 45 for it to be eligible to be next in line. Moot when he or she could just log into the leader account.

• Mango


Nun Shall Pass * Member Since 2012-01-05
posté November 12, 2013, 09:43:13 | #206
Crossposting this (btw mods instead of censoring language where it is not necessary you might want to do your actual job and keep discussions in one place instead of being spread out all over the place):


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Yes, there has to be a replacement system put into place. No, it cannot just be after 45 days and no it cannot be some arbitrary fall back system. The fall back system going down all the way to the bottom is horrible...How can people seriously think that 45 days is ok when Ankama's support service alone is not even able to solve payment issues in less than 90 days?So, my payment option screws up - which happens to random people at random times with the quality service Ankama offers - and I not only lose my freetime activity, they are going to take my guild on top of it? Yeah sure...Make it 90 days at the very least and also make it another 90 days before it trickles down the next rank, 90 for the next and so on. Otherwise you will have smaller guilds run by some fresh recruit in no time just because of a small chain of bad coincedences.



The people arguing in favour of this change have no realistic relationship towards time in the real world.
Neither do they have any understanding of how arbitrary trust is being handled by a majority of plasers, so the proposal to put a proper vice and then a vice of the vice of the vice of the vice in place is idiotic at best.

Btw what happens if two people are tied for the same vice rank?


This post has been edited by Shaleigh1 - November 12, 2013, 09:43:36.
Lazy Bow Meow * Member Since 2013-07-24
posté November 12, 2013, 10:00:31 | #207
I was just wondering for an approximation how long will the servers be down?


Bellaphone Lover * Member Since 2012-06-02
posté November 12, 2013, 10:03:28 | #208
I'd say that 45 days isn't very long in real life time, sure. But it is a long time in game -- and for a leader to be gone from the game for that long will do nothing but hurt a guild. As for your point about a vice of a vice of a vice -- Assuming you had so many high ranking people in your guild also be so inactive then you're either placing your trust in the wrong players or your guild has other problems(such as being dead). As for the two people being of the same second in command rank you'd hopefully be fine with either of them taking over control of the guild or alternatively you could spread their ranks out. Finally, your beef with not being able to swear is funny.

Samz -- Too long, but it can be down between an hour to six. Best to just go to bed and enjoy playing in the morning


This post has been edited by TheMightyShell - November 12, 2013, 10:04:44.
Lazy Bow Meow * Member Since 2013-07-24
posté November 12, 2013, 10:05:39 | #209
Mightyshell, i'm in the uk its 9:05 am here this is my playihng time :/



Narcissistic Larva * Member Since 2013-11-02
posté November 12, 2013, 10:18:31 | #210
The client keeps saying to download the older version of it from the french site...
Is this because the update on the servers itself isn't finished?


Featherless Piwi * Member Since 2013-11-06
posté November 12, 2013, 10:21:02 | #211
Hm... there`s a new update in Wakfu, even the client says it, yet the updater isn`t getting it -.-


Ugly Gobball * Member Since 2010-04-11
posté November 12, 2013, 10:27:56 | #212
server is dead


Overweighted Chafer * Member Since 2009-06-10
posté November 12, 2013, 10:31:24 | #213
??? updater not updating


Lead Community Manager * Member Since 2012-02-28
posté November 12, 2013, 10:32:37 | #214
Maintenance isn't over yet.


Narcissistic Larva * Member Since 2013-11-02
posté November 12, 2013, 10:43:54 | #215

Quote (Troyle @ 12 November 2013 10:32) *
Maintenance isn't over yet.
oh, cool. Thanks for the heads up.
Any rough idea when it'd be done?


Overweighted Chafer * Member Since 2009-06-10
posté November 12, 2013, 10:50:20 | #216

Quote (Shaleigh1 @ 12 November 2013 09:43) *

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The people arguing in favour of this change have no realistic relationship towards time in the real world.
Neither do they have any understanding of how arbitrary trust is being handled by a majority of plasers, so the proposal to put a proper vice and then a vice of the vice of the vice of the vice in place is idiotic at best.

Btw what happens if two people are tied for the same vice rank?
my guess, higher of the GP


Happy Miliboowolf * Member Since 2013-02-21
posté November 12, 2013, 10:54:57 | #217
Something is updaaaaaating


Featherless Piwi * Member Since 2013-11-06
posté November 12, 2013, 10:57:20 | #218
OH GAHD FINALLY


Short Strich * Member Since 2012-11-10
posté November 12, 2013, 10:58:17 | #219
Anyone else getting this?


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Wakfu
---------------------------The game did not exit correctly.Please report the issue and show the text in the "details" frame to a developer.---------------------------OK Hide Details... ---------------------------
log4j:WARN No appenders could be found for logger (com.ankamagames.wakfu.client.WakfuClient).

log4j:WARN Please initialize the log4j system properly.

log4j:WARN See Click here#noconfig for more info.

INFO 01:55:20,881 [main] (aVO:114) - 1.29 (build 102269 [2013-11-09 @ 00H00min00])

INFO 01:55:20,883 [main] (com.ankamagames.wakfu.client.WakfuClient:126) - java.vm.vendor = Oracle Corporation

INFO 01:55:20,883 [main] (com.ankamagames.wakfu.client.WakfuClient:127) - java.runtime.name = Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment

INFO 01:55:20,883 [main] (com.ankamagames.wakfu.client.WakfuClient:128) - java.vm.name = Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM

INFO 01:55:20,883 [main] (com.ankamagames.wakfu.client.WakfuClient:129) - java.vm.version = 23.25-b01

INFO 01:55:20,883 [main] (com.ankamagames.wakfu.client.WakfuClient:130) - java.runtime.version = 1.7.0_25-b17

INFO 01:55:20,884 [main] (com.ankamagames.wakfu.client.WakfuClient:131) - os.name = Windows 8

INFO 01:55:20,884 [main] (com.ankamagames.wakfu.client.WakfuClient:132) - os.arch = x86

INFO 01:55:20,884 [main] (com.ankamagames.wakfu.client.WakfuClient:133) - os.version = 6.2

INFO 01:55:20,884 [main] (com.ankamagames.wakfu.client.WakfuClient:134) - sun.os.patch.level =

INFO 01:55:20,884 [main] (com.ankamagames.wakfu.client.WakfuClient:135) - user.language = en

INFO 01:55:20,884 [main] (com.ankamagames.wakfu.client.WakfuClient:136) - user.country = US

INFO 01:55:20,891 [main] (com.ankamagames.wakfu.client.WakfuClient:142) - log path=C:/Users/Yuejiao/AppData/Local/Ankama/Wakfu/game

INFO 01:55:20,896 [main] (az:343) - Chargement de la configuration depuis le fichier : ''

INFO 01:55:20,969 [main] (aNB:83) - lecture de l'index animations\dynamics\dynamics.index

INFO 01:55:20,978 [main] (aNB:83) - lecture de l'index animations\equipments\equipments.index

INFO 01:55:20,990 [main] (aNB:83) - lecture de l'index animations\gui\gui.index

INFO 01:55:20,991 [main] (aNB:83) - lecture de l'index animations\interactives\interactives.index

INFO 01:55:20,994 [main] (aNB:83) - lecture de l'index animations\npcs\npcs.index

INFO 01:55:20,997 [main] (aNB:83) - lecture de l'index animations\pets\pets.index

INFO 01:55:20,997 [main] (aNB:83) - lecture de l'index animations\players\players.index

INFO 01:55:20,998 [main] (aNB:83) - lecture de l'index animations\resources\resources.index

INFO 01:55:20,999 [main] (aNB:83) - lecture de l'index gui_jar\gui.index

INFO 01:55:21,015 [main] (aNB:83) - lecture de l'index hm\hm.index

INFO 01:55:21,017 [main] (aNB:83) - lecture de l'index maps\gfx.index

INFO 01:55:21,026 [main] (aNB:83) - lecture de l'index particles\particles.index

INFO 01:55:21,033 [main] (aNB:83) - lecture de l'index scripts\scripts.index

INFO 01:55:21,106 [Worker (in OpenGL thread)] (dpK:184) - Worker running (in OpenGL thread)

INFO 01:55:21,107 [MessageScheduler] (cDe:361) - MessageScheduler running

INFO 01:55:21,299 [AWT-EventQueue-0] (cMW:76) - DirectBufferPoolManager allocates 25419KB

INFO 01:55:21,315 [AWT-EventQueue-0] (dbu:31) - GameDate initialized. Timezone : sun.util.calendar.ZoneInfo[id="UTC",offset=0,dstSavings=0,useDaylight=false,transitions=0,lastRule=null]

INFO 01:55:21,318 [AWT-EventQueue-0] (cUe:99) - Initializing GLApplication UI

FATAL 01:55:21,332 [AWT-EventQueue-0] (cbX:98) - Erreur au lancement

java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no jogl in java.library.path

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary0(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(Unknown Source)

at com.sun.opengl.impl.NativeLibLoader.loadLibraryInternal(NativeLibLoader.java:189)

at com.sun.opengl.impl.NativeLibLoader.access$000(NativeLibLoader.java:49)

at com.sun.opengl.impl.NativeLibLoader$DefaultAction.loadLibrary(NativeLibLoader.java:80)

at com.sun.opengl.impl.NativeLibLoader.loadLibrary(NativeLibLoader.java:103)

at com.sun.opengl.impl.NativeLibLoader.access$200(NativeLibLoader.java:49)

at com.sun.opengl.impl.NativeLibLoader$1.run(NativeLibLoader.java:111)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at com.sun.opengl.impl.NativeLibLoader.loadCore(NativeLibLoader.java:109)

at com.sun.opengl.impl.windows.WindowsGLDrawableFactory.(WindowsGLDrawableFactory.java:60)

at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)

at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)

at javax.media.opengl.GLDrawableFactory.getFactory(GLDrawableFactory.java:106)

at javax.media.opengl.GLCanvas.chooseGraphicsConfiguration(GLCanvas.java:520)

at javax.media.opengl.GLCanvas.(GLCanvas.java:131)

at javax.media.opengl.GLCanvas.(GLCanvas.java:90)

at jS.(SourceFile:61)

at cUe.b(SourceFile:100)

at dqE.a(SourceFile:294)

at com.ankamagames.wakfu.client.WakfuClientInstance.initialize(SourceFile:401)

at cbX.run(SourceFile:92)

at java.awt.event.InvocationEvent.dispatch(Unknown Source)

at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)

at java.awt.EventQueue.access$200(Unknown Source)

at java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown Source)

at java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at java.security.ProtectionDomain$1.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source)

at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)

at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)

at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)

at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)

at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)

at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)

at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)



Eccentric Moogrr * Member Since 2012-04-21
posté November 12, 2013, 11:00:34 | #220
About the hair color changes:
Will existing characters be able to change it somehow, or is it only available to new characters?

About the moving camera feature:
ABOUT TIME!!! FINALLY!!! NO MORE MISCLICKS DUE TO TERRAIN!!! *does the chicken dance*

About the Al Howin stuff:
Only triple the amount of gobs? I don't think that's nearly enough ... competition will still be fierce ...

About the rest:
A lot of goodies, nice.