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Teethless Sharkie * Member Since 2011-02-03
posté August 14, 2012, 20:43:28 | #41
@ Spalionn/Leannia:

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after this words i understood that nothing to talk with u guys about.

That's your decision of course. Though keep in mind that leaving the discussion will make it harder for you to voice whatever you want to say to us.

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i gave u 12 votes

That still leaves more than 50%. Reavers had 122 votes. Bersa had 53. I think 110 votes still pretty much did the trick here. Aside from this, I'm also looking forward to the new political system, in which I hope it's not possible anymore to abuse alts in voting. I still want to thank you for contributing in that way, though.

@ Nanners:

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If i really didn't care I wouldn't be ranting on the forum would i?

But you're 'ranting' against an Amaknian economy, the way I see it. You're contributing to Bonta's economy. The markets are a two-way street. More in Bonta means less in Amakna and vice versa. In my honest and personal opinion, if you really cared, you would do everything in your might to trade in Amakna, and get as many people as possible with you. Which you can, since you can be influential, and I think you know that, too.

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ongoing war, which has been going on and off for the past 5+ WEEKS

It has been going on and off, because we also wanted to listen to the minority of people who disliked the war. It wouldn't have gone off if we didn't hear you! I noted down the developments in Excel and Word, and this is what has been going on the past few weeks:

1) Our economy was pretty bad, we started the war
2) Our economy doubled, nearly tripled
3) We had a few complaints about the war and were aware of the disadvantages, so we made a truce with Bonta, after one week of war
4) Our economy went down again like crazy, items for sale back to 200 and even below, and almost no haven bags left in Crusty Road, after a week truce
5) We got tons of complaints because the economy went down again - people wanted the war back

And so we declared war again. Now, we've had 3 weeks of continued war, indeed.

It would seem unfair to put the minority over the majority, but because we value everyone as an individual, we tried! And we now have proof that the war was good to our economy. We've been testing our methods, if it would'nt work, we wouldn't do it. Please check out the statistics again for information about the influence of a truce on our economy.

Nanners, I do agree with you on that we're not achieving an economy as good as Bonta. Bonta just simply has a larger player base, and we don't need to have the best economy of the universe, you're right. (Althought having that as goal in mind wouldn't do harm, I think ;D). But for now we just want to stay with our feet on the ground and uphold a good economy for Amakna, so yeah, you're pretty much right about that ^^

@ Azalon Stonebound

Thanks for voicing your opinion on the forums, too.

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For myself, I find the 10-itens limit very low so I use all four nations to sell my itens. I hope you guys don't think i'm a traitor for that =(

Of course not There's a limit placed by the game, and that's just inconvenient. You're selling in Amakna first and that's awesome.

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Rasht is also doing a very nice job with the ecosystem (and he promised to help me in the website WOOO)

Reavers and I are looking into that now too. Trying to get that done asap, it's a great idea for the ecosystem

Thanks for your support and for selling in Amakna too.

Yours sincerely,

Rayne


This post has been edited by LadyRinsun - August 14, 2012, 20:43:59.
Ugly Gobball * Member Since 2012-05-08
posté August 14, 2012, 23:09:15 | #42
...keep up the good work


This post has been edited by Apachetuna - August 14, 2012, 23:26:15.
Reason for edit : dont feel like flaming to answer useless posts XD
Tofurby on Diet * Member Since 2012-02-28
posté August 15, 2012, 00:24:12 | #43
Well I thought it was about time to voice my opinions..

As many of the stats and screenshots have showed, this war is helping the other nations economy and player base.

However, this war isn't a war.. It's a status. It's mainly a block to stop the haven bags on enemy territory. Alright that's helped a bit but everyone knows the first place you go to look for the item you want is the market board.

Cloudi, you appear to be a fan of violence so instead of going after guilds do something productive?
Bonta is the most populated nation, many of which consist of alt characters from the other nations, right? So why not try make bonta markets exclusive, attack all outlaws on sight.. Granted we won't get their taxes but do we really need more? As a previous member of the government ( challenger / weather engineer) it appears not.

Its going to boost other nations markets and player base.. Great, when it comes to an actual war bonta might have some competition, and see some new faces on the enemies side..

People will want to be bontanarian, you can only shop here being bonta.. Can't kill us all? Join us


If this is going to be a war make it an actual war.. What we have now although boosting markets isn't entertaining anyone, and this is a game for entertainment.

If the above is not possible start trying other solutions.. I appreciate Rayne trying a truce.. But it's clear full time war or full time peace won't work.. Have special shopping events at specific markets for a one time only weekend, With low low taxes or something, be creative, this is a sandbox game after all.

I'd like to thank anyone who stuck with reading this post all the way through and hope it helps, also respect how difficult job being a governor is, things take time and a lot goes on under the surface.

Sorry for the long post, mistakes and all the elipses, it's late ^^

-Nomus


Teethless Sharkie * Member Since 2005-07-09
posté August 15, 2012, 12:15:23 | #44
I totally agree with you Nomus, it's harsh but will be best for all of us. But I won't make it that easy for Bonta. If my fellow Amaknians need an escort into Bonta, expect me to provide protection like a Head Guard should. If people really want to go to 5th bond, and they actually need protection they will have it. And I've already guarenteed protection on their way to Bontarian dungeons.

-Blantuise, Head Guard of Amakna.

Also, thats just my opinion. Not all of the government agree.

-Blant


This post has been edited by PidgeonX - August 15, 2012, 12:34:34.
Reason for edit : corrected a typo that could cast confusion.
posté August 15, 2012, 13:45:01 | #45

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Cloudi, you appear to be a fan of violence so instead of going after guilds do something productive?
Bonta is the most populated nation, many of which consist of alt characters from the other nations, right? So why not try make bonta markets exclusive, attack all outlaws on sight..

I like this idea =)


Bellaphone Lover * Member Since 2012-03-06
posté August 17, 2012, 17:56:15 | #46
well, if the war (for some) is about economy, what if certain items could ONLY be sold in certain markets?
or if there was a new policy that was designed so that you could turn on/off specific markets availability?

if yo could add a policy that meant using markets not from your nation charged you? in CP or in kamas?
or that crafted items could be sold to any market but drops were exclusive to your own nation market? would that help?

see its not just economy, its bigger. war affects more than just an economy and the economy is affected by more than just war.
alot of players went bontan becasue they were sugested it. i went bonta because i was told by a mate 'come to bonta, its quiet and no ones going to gank you.'
he might have been wrong about the seccond part though

some players chose bonta becasue of the large population, or because they like trees and green stuff, or becasue they didnt want to play on white screen or black screen (ie, the graphical landscape of brak and sufokia problem. that should be adressed too becasue it makes it hard to play n those areas for a lot of people.)
and some came direct from the cartoon and just expected bonta to be the biggest market. that cant be helped.
if there was a way to migrate your nationality, it might not be such a problem.

course, there is one way to fix it...but no one is going to want that....reboot and whipe. all chars, all nationality. start again. a huge ctrl-alt-delete for the wakfu world. but thats the amagad, last ditch effort thing, for when the worlds bugged to high hell


This post has been edited by Silverbane7 - August 17, 2012, 17:57:16.
posté August 17, 2012, 20:55:48 | #47
/\ Can the government enforce that? Or are you suggesting something for Ankama to develop?


Bellaphone Lover * Member Since 2012-03-06
posté August 18, 2012, 17:01:13 | #48
i was asking those who are in the goverments, who are saying the war is less about fun for high levels and more about economy.

asking if that kind of change to the system would be better for them, and IF such things were added, would they then stop the fulltime war and consider going back to the weekend war system ect.

i dont think its available now. such laws and policies i mean.
but since about half the war is being toted as 'for the economy!' and the other half is 'for the fun! were bored lvl 80+ players' i wanted to know if such economic policies would be of any use.

SOMETHING needs to be done because things need to be looked at.
IF something is done to add extra content (PvP based) to keep the top levels happy, war is not needed as much for fun.
then we could look at making war not needed for economics.
balance is never easy. we need to find a way to let everyone have some fun.


Teethless Sharkie * Member Since 2005-07-09
posté August 20, 2012, 19:56:36 | #49

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well, if the war (for some) is about economy, what if certain items could ONLY be sold in certain markets?
or if there was a new policy that was designed so that you could turn on/off specific markets availability?

if yo could add a policy that meant using markets not from your nation charged you? in CP or in kamas?

I really like that thinking. It is not something we can do as government at this moment, as you said, but its a nice suggestion for Ankama to look at. It would certainly help to stop wars for the economy.



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course, there is one way to fix it...but no one is going to want that....reboot and whipe. all chars, all nationality. start again. a huge ctrl-alt-delete for the wakfu world. but thats the amagad, last ditch effort thing, for when the worlds bugged to high hell

This is not the solution. It wouldn't solve anything. We cán end the war. But it will mean imbalanced markets again. I don't think much would change, but it would be nice to be able to change nations, but I think it should be really hard or only once per character.


-Blantuise


Bellaphone Lover * Member Since 2012-03-06
posté August 20, 2012, 21:39:50 | #50
well, we allready have the beer that you can only make if you are a citizen of (your nation here)
i think there is a bread of some kind too.

they need more items. now i know they wouldnt let us have the national outfit (ie the one in the store) but there could be a set of gear that is good for use in a certain nation.
see i havent been outside bonta much, so i dont know, in which case, im probably wrong but im using general themes and ideas here.

so. in bonta its all nature based. trees an green and so on. now what if there was a set that gave you nature protection. some set that was great while hunting in that area. and it was only available to buy from that are.
if there was a set from amakna that was about (wind? earth? im not sure) and THAT was only available to make and sell/buy in Amakna markets. infact you couldnt even MAKE the thing unless you were from that nation.
same goes for brak (fire or earth? i know fire is one element the nations famous for but so is mining) and sufokia (water/fishing?)
one set of gear for element protection, one set of gear for gathering (perhaps ups the % of chance to get a double drop when harvesting)

we could have a costume set aswell. and again, you have to be from that nation, can only sell in that nations markets and it could only be made in that nations borders.
also some food and drink more. bread and beer are good, but you need more stuff. pet treats with a temporary boost. foods like stew and puddings.
give each nation one of each thing and make it soley craftable by its citizens, sold in its markets and made on its soil.

for example..we have the sufokia beer. i think there is also a bread. add to this...
Sufokian Fish Pie (has at least 3 different fish in the mix, a golden fluffy puffy crust. when eaten it could give you ether bonus water protection or bonus water damage)
now that fish pie can be eaten by anyone. but it could only be bought from the sufokia market, made by sufokian cooks and only cooked in a sufokian oven lol.
and Sufokian Seaside Pudding!
and Sufokian Beach Biscuits (for your pet. contains fresh fish and seaweed, yum! every pet likes these treats!)

after that, you could have the amakna and brakmar and bonta versions. one each. somethig special thats worth going to a certain market in the hope of buying. and again, something worth making, becaue its allways wanted for its buffs and bonuses.

next item. the polices thing.
well i dont k ow exactly how it would work, but if you could just set the markets only instead of trespassing into another nations soil as the bad thing, it might make it easier. perhaps a small tax against you for using anothers market. or a CP charge if it was done so many times (like 10 times=1cp removal or so forth.) the game would have to warn you though. cant have it sneakily making you an outlaw by not warning you that you were going against your governments wishes.

but i think the regional items are a better trick.
players respond beter to the carrot than the stick. we have seen it time and again. reward the player for doing what you want, instead of punishing them for doing what you DONT want lol. same results usualy, but less QQ in the end and fewer hurt players.

and yeah, the reboot is allways the last resort. getting your whole life retcon'd is not nice..and you get that wierd sick feeling sometimes when things seem famili.....ah there i go again *winks*


This post has been edited by Silverbane7 - August 20, 2012, 21:40:25.
Teethless Sharkie * Member Since 2005-07-09
posté August 20, 2012, 23:04:18 | #51
You have some great ideas, Silverbane. You should post them in the "suggestions" topic. But let's keep this thread about the war... or better... I hope everything is clear now and we no longer have to discuss this war. All feedback about what the Amakna government does or does not is still very welcome though. You can PM Rayne and me ingame, or Reavers if your Italian is better than your English.

-Blantuise, Head Guard of Amakna.


Tofurby on Diet * Member Since 2012-01-11
posté August 23, 2012, 06:01:58 | #52

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First of all Cloudi, it's very rare I talk to you ( you just come talk to me when you need something ), and when it happened I told you the reason of the War, I never said for anyone: " I feel bored so the war entertain me " be a man dude and don't invent fucking lies, for every single one player that asked me about the War I stopped to do what I was doing and explained the situation, you can ask for anyone about this --'

The ideas of the War in BRAK ( I was the only one Gov that declared war against all nations, so again, dunno why the fuck Cloudi are talking about me 'cause he is Bonta ) is to improve the MARKET ( with help of the laws that I bought when I was Gov ), give some fun for HIGH LEVEL players ( PvP + Clan Member fights ), 'cause low level players can already level solo/ group in the nations or in the islands, as our friend Bug Machine ( the guy who started this thread ) said, you can invite a neutral character to your group and then invite your friends of other nations, or just join in the fights with them ( just don't lock it ) and try to make the nation more independent from the other nations. Dunno if you guys realize that but after I started this "Permanent War" all the markets of all nations are growing little by little ( besides Bonta ;D maybe that's why Cloudi is pissed off? ) so maybe the Governors saw the potencial of the wars and are just getting on with it.

It's IMPOSSIBLE to make everyone happy, if we don't have war, HIGH LEVEL players won't have NOTHING to do, a lot of people are lv 105, with the best sets of equipments and without war the game just become boring. LOW LEVEL players always leveled with no problem, I don't see why so much complains about the war, all the time is always in peace, c'mon if you guys give an opportunity for it can be very fun for everyone, and you can still level with your friends in your own nation and in the islands ( as I said before ).

Hope we can find a solution for it

Joker ^~
As they said bro Truth always a pain to some and i have not a screenshot for that but ..I am sure about what i say . I never need anything from u dear as i said its only 1 gov that i did deal with and i wont never find a good gov from brakmar like captian .. and from Amakna was Leni ..they were so respectful and mature no Offense Joker {3

Cloudi


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It's IMPOSSIBLE to make everyone happy, if we don't have war, HIGH LEVEL players won't have NOTHING to do, a lot of people are lv 105, with the best sets of equipments and without war the game just become boring. LOW LEVEL players always leveled with no problem, I don't see why so much complains about the war, all the time is always in peace, c'mon if you guys give an opportunity for it can be very fun for everyone, and you can still level with your friends in your own nation and in the islands ( as I said before ).

Hope we can find a solution for it

Joker ^~
Who said we dont want war ..Dear ..You are out of it ..u cant just do alll the time wars or all the time Peace You need to have something We call Organized wars Like *Limit time for it * Thats what i did say to u To fhil to any Gov ..Dont tell me am wrong here

Cloudi, you make me depressed to be part of Bonta.

Can't wait for your mandate to end.

~The silent majority.


Grizzled Dandelion * Member Since 2012-02-18
posté August 23, 2012, 09:58:08 | #53
I am good friends with some of the government and I've supported them for a while because of the incredible ideas that were presented at the beginning of the mandate but now I'm starting to think, if the markets don't rise to be better than bonta (very likely as most high-levels tend to sneak to bonta) are we still willing to have a war with them after say the 3rd month we have been at war with them? I mean no it definitely doesn't matter at all that the "IFS" seems to be going up and down but not rapidly increasing anymore which suggests that nothing more should be done to make it increase.(sarcasm)

That would just get stupid as it's not possible to control people's actions if they've already made that choice to use other markets. Also what is the numerical goal of the IFS to reach and maintain as it would also be ridiculous to try to keep increasing it forever, at the current time the state of mind in government is: "Ah, the market is improving now, let's forever hate bonta until we get ALL UB AND WB SETS on the market and let's try to persuade these high-level guys that have WB and UB sets to sell items at amakna for a reasonably lower price so new players can afford it, it'll work for shooooore."
Completely ridiculous.

Better option 1 - it would be better to remove wars at the time the market is at it's best to see if it remains stable and maintain peace to test how stable it goes then if it get's really hazardous back to war?

Better option 2 -
Weekly pvp tournaments and not just make a thread and forget about it. Low-mid sorta levels of the nation need to have some excitement. (KAMA PRIZES)

Better option 3 -
Choose amaknian high-levels to do frequent high level dungeon runs etc that you know are committed to the nation and let them sell their items there, first at a low price(necessary for people to actually buy these sets without mining too hard) and then gradually increasing the price till it gets to it's normal price.

I'm not hating on the government but I'm not with it currently.


Wilder than Wild Dragoturkey * Member Since 2011-08-09
posté August 23, 2012, 10:48:25 | #54

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I am good friends with some of the government and I've supported them for a while because of the incredible ideas that were presented at the beginning of the mandate but now I'm starting to think, if the markets don't rise to be better than bonta (very likely as most high-levels tend to sneak to bonta) are we still willing to have a war with them after say the 3rd month we have been at war with them? I mean no it definitely doesn't matter at all that the "IFS" seems to be going up and down but not rapidly increasing anymore which suggests that nothing more should be done to make it increase.(sarcasm)

That would just get stupid as it's not possible to control people's actions if they've already made that choice to use other markets. Also what is the numerical goal of the IFS to reach and maintain as it would also be ridiculous to try to keep increasing it forever, at the current time the state of mind in government is: "Ah, the market is improving now, let's forever hate bonta until we get ALL UB AND WB SETS on the market and let's try to persuade these high-level guys that have WB and UB sets to sell items at amakna for a reasonably lower price so new players can afford it, it'll work for shooooore."
Completely ridiculous.

Better option 1 - it would be better to remove wars at the time the market is at it's best to see if it remains stable and maintain peace to test how stable it goes then if it get's really hazardous back to war?

Better option 2 -
Weekly pvp tournaments and not just make a thread and forget about it. Low-mid sorta levels of the nation need to have some excitement. (KAMA PRIZES)

Better option 3 -
Choose amaknian high-levels to do frequent high level dungeon runs etc that you know are committed to the nation and let them sell their items there, first at a low price(necessary for people to actually buy these sets without mining too hard) and then gradually increasing the price till it gets to it's normal price.

I'm not hating on the government but I'm not with it currently.
^ Completely agree.


Featherless Piwi * Member Since 2012-07-03
posté August 23, 2012, 14:58:32 | #55

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I am good friends with some of the government and I've supported them for a while because of the incredible ideas that were presented at the beginning of the mandate but now I'm starting to think, if the markets don't rise to be better than bonta (very likely as most high-levels tend to sneak to bonta) are we still willing to have a war with them after say the 3rd month we have been at war with them? I mean no it definitely doesn't matter at all that the "IFS" seems to be going up and down but not rapidly increasing anymore which suggests that nothing more should be done to make it increase.(sarcasm)

That would just get stupid as it's not possible to control people's actions if they've already made that choice to use other markets. Also what is the numerical goal of the IFS to reach and maintain as it would also be ridiculous to try to keep increasing it forever, at the current time the state of mind in government is: "Ah, the market is improving now, let's forever hate bonta until we get ALL UB AND WB SETS on the market and let's try to persuade these high-level guys that have WB and UB sets to sell items at amakna for a reasonably lower price so new players can afford it, it'll work for shooooore."
Completely ridiculous.

Better option 1 - it would be better to remove wars at the time the market is at it's best to see if it remains stable and maintain peace to test how stable it goes then if it get's really hazardous back to war?

Better option 2 -
Weekly pvp tournaments and not just make a thread and forget about it. Low-mid sorta levels of the nation need to have some excitement. (KAMA PRIZES)

Better option 3 -
Choose amaknian high-levels to do frequent high level dungeon runs etc that you know are committed to the nation and let them sell their items there, first at a low price(necessary for people to actually buy these sets without mining too hard) and then gradually increasing the price till it gets to it's normal price.

I'm not hating on the government but I'm not with it currently.
^ Completely agree.
Good post benji =)

PS:"Completly agree", so lets start noobing around and killing ppl, so tired of 5th walkers.


Teethless Sharkie * Member Since 2005-07-09
posté August 23, 2012, 16:43:26 | #56
Hey Benji, thank you for your feedback. I’ll try to answer your suggestions as good as possible, and even add an option that a nice Bontarian suggested to me yesterday. I had put it all in a nice order, same subject with same subject, but because my Google Chrome window closed I lost all I had typed. This reply was typed in word and I’ll just comment on your post wherever you put it, this may lead to unnecessary repeating sometimes, I’m sorry for that, but I don’t want to spend another 2 hours on my reply :S


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, if the markets don't rise to be better than bonta (very likely as most high-levels tend to sneak to bonta) are we still willing to have a war with them after say the 3rd month we have been at war with them?
You are right that we should ask this, if we’d still want a war after 3 months. I don’t. We’ve had war for 1 month continueously now, and a short truce before that… keeping up the war is the least thing we want to do. You do however seem to clearly feel where the problem lies “most high-levels tend to sneak to bonta” I think this is the problem as well, even though we can’t force them not to. It’s our dream that they wouldn’t and that they’d start caring for our nation and help us to improve it.


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I mean no it definitely doesn't matter at all that the "IFS" seems to be going up and down but not rapidly increasing anymore which suggests that nothing more should be done to make it increase.(sarcasm)

That would indeed be stupid, and I understand how it may seem like that, but it isn’t. We’re doing our best to do whatever we can, but just 8 people can’t do much. Luckely we have a lot of dedicated, but mainly low level citizens that want to help us. Those are not enough to satisfy the high levels, and especially not the high levels that “tend to sneak to Bonta”. We would like to do more though. Check what I wrote at your “better option 3”


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That would just get stupid as it's not possible to control people's actions if they've already made that choice to use other markets.
This is true, and it is also not what we want: we don’t want to control people. We wish every Amaknian would use our own marketplace, and as it’s been communicated, I see the war and especially the Outlaw icon as a reminder to sell in your own nation. I don’t hate on people that sell in Bonta, but it does disappoint me.


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Also what is the numerical goal of the IFS to reach and maintain as it would also be ridiculous to try to keep increasing it forever, at the current time the state of mind in government is: "Ah, the market is improving now, let's forever hate bonta until we get ALL UB AND WB SETS on the market and let's try to persuade these high-level guys that have WB and UB sets to sell items at amakna for a reasonably lower price so new players can afford it, it'll work for shooooore."
This is not at all the state of mind in the government at all and indeed ridiculous and even funny. We’re well aware that Bonta as a much bigger player base then us. We don’t want to be better than them, we want Amakna to have a market that they deserve, not the Amakna-unworthy market it was before Rayne’s first mandate. I would like to see that all Amaknians sell their drops, either Gobball or Gobbalrog, in their home country rather than in Bonta. I’m not sure if anyone else from the government has spoken about “low pricing” but I don’t really care about that. I just want diversity. I’d pay more to buy items in my own nation than in other nations… but that’s not for me to speak about, since I haven’t checked the Bonta market since… well… I don’t even remember. I guess since Tsar Palace was still popular.


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Better option 1 - it would be better to remove wars at the time the market is at it's best to see if it remains stable and maintain peace to test how stable it goes then if it get's really hazardous back to war?
We’ve been talking about this in the government for about a week now. In the past four weeks of war a lot of new people have reached maxed level, and they may not even remember that we tried a truce before. We may indeed test this again and I really really really hope that you are right and the market remains stable. I’d pray for us to be wrong… BUT If our market reaches an abysmal state again, we will have to make war once again: and hopefully then everyone will support us and keep supporting us so that we cán have the market we need. We’ll get back to you about the “test-truce” with Bonta after we’ve discussed these matters with our Brakmarian allies.


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Better option 2 -
Weekly pvp tournaments and not just make a thread and forget about it. Low-mid sorta levels of the nation need to have some excitement. (KAMA PRIZES)
Having events (either pvp or not) is a good idea, and we’ve had tiny things before, but I personally don’t really see this as THE task of the government. In a good nation we should all work and make fun together. Everyone can organize an event. A Bontarian friend of mine, JerryDB, is setting a great example (for the event Click here), we’d love to see Amaknians to organize the same (and as Amaknians we can all join Jerries’ too). If support from the government is needed to organize one, please come to us. We’d be happy to share it in speeches or help in the organization.


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Better option 3 -
Choose amaknian high-levels to do frequent high level dungeon runs etc that you know are committed to the nation and let them sell their items there, first at a low price(necessary for people to actually buy these sets without mining too hard) and then gradually increasing the price till it gets to it's normal price.
This is a great idea which I’d like to start right away. Also, it’s a great example of how welcome feedback is: now we can do something with it to make people happy. We’d been organizing hunts within Signature and with a few other people to sell drops in our own market, but why not make a list of Amakna dedicated high levels that we can PM freely to do dungeons with. I’ll create a list on the forums and I hope many people will subscribe to this. Again about the pricing: we’re not gonna force anything on that. Expect this!


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I'm not hating on the government but I'm not with it currently.
We respect that, though you were a great ally and I hope we’ll still be able to satisfy you as good as possible. Now about a 4th option that the guildmaster of pro-Bontarian guild Garuda proposed to me. He said that if Bonta would slightly raise their taxes people would get a free choice of which market to use. Bonta, with a higher selling chance because of the player base, but at the cost of a little more to taxes, or Amakna/Brakmar, for less taxes and a less chance of selling items. This might stabilize the markets of the 2 middle nations, and will make sure that the war is no longer nessesary… it would even be counterproductive in that case. The biggest problem with this is: could Bontarians agree on that. I wouldn’t like it for our own nation, but since a Bontarian suggested this I wanted to share this idea and get feedback on it. It can be seen as a small price for peace?


Also Nanners. I’m glad you agree with Benji, that’s your good right, but please stop being hostile to level 40 and lower Amaknians, and all Amaknians actually. We only give in to reason, not to aggression. You’re doing the opposite to helping our nation and taking it out on new and low level players, only because you disagree with us. It ain’t helping.

-Blantuise


Squited Arachnee * Member Since 2011-11-27
posté August 24, 2012, 10:59:34 | #57
I say we all start doing our business in Kelba market!

-Nemeth


Wilder than Wild Dragoturkey * Member Since 2011-08-09
posté August 24, 2012, 11:48:41 | #58

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Also Nanners. I’m glad you agree with Benji, that’s your good right, but please stop being hostile to level 40 and lower Amaknians, and all Amaknians actually. We only give in to reason, not to aggression. You’re doing the opposite to helping our nation and taking it out on new and low level players, only because you disagree with us. It ain’t helping.

What? I dont remember killing any lvl 40's ._. I only remember winning in 4 v 2 when reavers decided to gang me  


Teethless Sharkie * Member Since 2005-07-09
posté August 24, 2012, 21:20:29 | #59
When I wrote my last post I meant with "hostilities" your threats towards Gomorrah. Sadly enough, when writing this post we both now that you have been killing several lowbies. I really don't understand why you people see yourself above the majority of Amakna. Because you're 105?


Narcissistic Larva * Member Since 2012-01-11
posté August 24, 2012, 21:26:20 | #60
lol what nanners!!!!

i ganged you lol...you aggro me and my guild member whit your dear friend lalluna and i have a lot of screen that can confirm it

So stop to lie e for maybe once in your life say the true...

Oh and another thing, we planned time ago to stop this war but now cause of your aggro
(Nanners's threat) i will not stop it!!

-Reavers


This post has been edited by ServantS - August 24, 2012, 21:30:16.