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Sac or Panda?
Ugly Gobball * Member Since 2010-05-21
posté November 26, 2013, 16:32:05 | #1
Sac or Panda? Hey there just a quick question.

Can a Sac or Panda be used in 100% of all dungeons?

If not what one is used more? I'm assuming panda, but I would like to hear others opinions and experiences as well.

Heres my Group if it will help:

Panda / Sac
Eni
Enu
Rogue
Iop
Xelor

Also a little off-topic is earth still a strong element for enu? I see a lot of water enu's nowadays.


This post has been edited by ShoKaiBai - November 26, 2013, 16:39:12.
Eccentric Moogrr * Member Since 2012-12-03
posté November 28, 2013, 20:09:49 | #2
Panda is needed for more dungs


Grizzled Dandelion * Member Since 2010-07-10
posté November 28, 2013, 20:38:51 | #3
Yeah panda is used more in dungeons/boss. And Earth Enu is still a very strong build if built correctly, but toward end game enu start hybridizing, especially with the treasure tracker passive and mines giving +all dmg%.


Ugly Gobball * Member Since 2010-05-21
posté December 11, 2013, 22:37:38 | #4
Cool! That's good to hear about that earth enu still strong.

Another question I have is how come all wabbit or similar end-game dungeons all have a Sac instead of a Panda? Is it possible to beat wabbit dungeons with a Panda instead of a Sac?


Tofurby on Diet * Member Since 2012-08-03
posté January 02, 2014, 08:23:23 | #5
AHHH question;.. so hard

*brain explodes*

They're both s good, how can you make me choose!!


Grizzled Dandelion * Member Since 2012-10-11
posté January 02, 2014, 08:44:46 | #6

Quote (kefirman @ 28 November 2013 20:09) *
Panda is needed for more dungs
btw it's no longer true. Barrel exploits in dungeons like yechti and hagen are fixed now. All high level dungeons require at least 1 tank and both panda and sacrier can fill this role with appropriate build. Their map manipulation is good too but with different tradeoffs. Panda's karchamrak is more flexible while sacrier's teleports have a LOT more range. I think a tanking iop is also possible but I didn't see any myself unfortunately.


Overweighted Chafer * Member Since 2005-08-02
posté January 02, 2014, 16:03:30 | #7
If you play your rogue fire pandas have better synergy with that imo. A tank panda can make extensive use of your carpet whereas a sac is restricted by having to move himself for maximum mobility.