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Best Class for Team Backstab
Lord Madgobb * Member Since 2010-12-04
posté May 13, 2014, 16:10:08 | #1
Best Class for Team Backstab I want a character who's main objective is to give a team Backstab. Fairly simple. I'd like to know which class would add the most to a team while filling this role.

I can only think of a Sacrier and Dragon Osa as being the most reliable for this role. I understand many classes have spells which turn a target around like Sram, Masq, Xelor and a Panda. But they seem less reliable and even dangerous as it puts them in poor positions.

Thoughts?


Lord Madgobb * Member Since 2011-04-28
posté May 13, 2014, 16:18:47 | #2
Sadida can move things at distance with gust - as long as it wont turn target around it can position it for easy backstab to ally or to make it easy for ally to not roll a dodge/lock and move around it. Also dolls themself might make enemy turn to face them if enemy end turn near doll, wich means it will be vulnerable to backstabs. Can work nicely with blocker dolls. Also if you place dolls near tank there is a chance that enemy will turn to one of the dolls instead of the tank, making it possible for tank to deal dmg from side or backstab even. Another thing is that you can use ultrapowerful dolls with gust spell to move targets around at will, though its costly to make such doll so you have to consider this.

K'mir is another spell wich make enemy follow Sadida - making it possible for Sadida to attack it from the side and for allies to backstab it - even if it ditched at map edge Sadida can move it out. If you'd prefer to not risk getting hurt you might shield self after using k'mir and turn to Tree to minimize the dmg you will get or you can make ultrapowerful doll that will remember k'mir and control it with vaporize to move the target for you. Its fun to do so and i remember pvp when i helped my ally-sram to keep stabber up at all times.


Lord Madgobb * Member Since 2010-12-04
posté May 13, 2014, 16:51:45 | #3
Sadida can certainly help out in this respect but i feel it's near the bottom of the list. Most of the options you listed work, but are simply too costly. Also, moving a target for BS isn't always an option. If it's being locked by a tank for example.


Overweighted Chafer * Member Since 2013-07-03
posté May 13, 2014, 16:54:14 | #4
Sram or a dragon osa imo. =P


Ugly Gobball * Member Since 2011-06-18
posté May 13, 2014, 16:56:31 | #5
I would say dragon osamoda is safest one with a lot of dmg


Grizzled Dandelion * Member Since 2012-02-29
posté May 13, 2014, 17:02:42 | #6
Dragon Osa or Pandawa.

Panda's automatically lower mob resists by giving backstab as well.

If you need damage, go for Osa, if you can use the extra support, use the Panda.


Lord Madgobb * Member Since 2010-12-04
posté May 13, 2014, 17:23:14 | #7

Quote (Smaakpapil @ 13 May 2014 17:02) *
Panda's automatically lower mob resists by giving backstab as well.

Panda can not pick up every mob in the game however. Many bosses are immune to Karchamrak sadly.


Ambitious Crackapult * Member Since 2013-02-17
posté May 13, 2014, 19:31:28 | #8

Quote (Gynrei @ 13 May 2014 17:23) *

Quote (Smaakpapil @ 13 May 2014 17:02) *
Panda's automatically lower mob resists by giving backstab as well.

Panda can not pick up every mob in the game however. Many bosses are immune to Karchamrak sadly.
They are immune for your safe.

*Use Karchamrak on excarnus*
*Excarnus smashed pandawa*
*Pandawa left battle*


Grizzled Dandelion * Member Since 2013-03-10
posté May 13, 2014, 21:07:18 | #9
Wanna turn smthing back to you - Dragon osa is the only true answer XD


Lord Madgobb * Member Since 2011-04-28
posté May 14, 2014, 00:14:52 | #10
The Sram after revamp will be really the best for this job with the Diversion spell.


Grizzled Dandelion * Member Since 2012-02-29
posté May 14, 2014, 07:39:08 | #11
Porque no los dos ?

Why not have an Osa AND a Panda Minus resist and decent damage and a kickass Dragon Osa


Lord Madgobb * Member Since 2010-12-04
posté May 14, 2014, 15:28:16 | #12

Quote (Smaakpapil @ 14 May 2014 07:39) *
Why not have an Osa AND a Panda Minus resist and decent damage and a kickass Dragon Osa

Well, I have a Panda already. They are great but it doesn't fill the role i'm looking for unfortunately.

I was just hoping there was something i was missing. Because i don't really want to play a Dragon Osa.


posté May 14, 2014, 15:30:16 | #13
Keep an eye on the sram revamp, they may be changing diversion to your liking


This post has been edited by Soundtrack8 - May 14, 2014, 15:30:34.
Reason for edit : Kikui beat me to it :U
Lord Madgobb * Member Since 2010-12-04
posté May 14, 2014, 16:03:16 | #14

Quote (Soundtrack8 @ 14 May 2014 15:30) *
Keep an eye on the sram revamp, they may be changing diversion to your liking

I really hope that's true. Care to elaborate on how this may work? Best guess would be fine. I'd be happy playing a Sram instead of an Osa.


posté May 14, 2014, 16:18:15 | #15
Its not final, but the current proposition is,
At level 9
Cost: 2ap
Size: Cross
Range: 1-5 - Doesn't state if it can be boosted or not
Line of Sight: Unknown
Effects:
  • Turns the target’s look towards the center (100%)
  • Turns the main target around (100%)
  • -25 Lv of Stabber

So can help get multiple backstabs / side stabs in one cast and is not restricted by a line cast. But of course keeps Stabber to a minimum. (Stabber is now raised by 2 levels for every ap spent on a backstab. " Stabber: +1% Butt-Kicking max Lvl 80" with an unlimited duration)
Rest of the proposal here


Lord Madgobb * Member Since 2010-12-04
posté May 14, 2014, 16:41:56 | #16
Well, I'd say Sram is a definite possibility but CC only classes scare me I like the burst dmg potential of Sram more than an Osa.