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posté Today - 00:02:30 | #1

Quote (ManicMansion @ 30 January 2015 09:13) *
This is what I could find (from the Wakfu Asia forums. Link)

"For instance, Osamodas isn't cruel to his disciples. he didn't have them inherit his looks, for one thing. Instead, he gifted them with his love for animals, and he gifted them with the ability to tame animals with a single look. He eventually even created a special creature specifically for his disciples: the majestic Gobgob, descendant of dragons, who can capture the souls of monsters, and even fuse with its owner to make him stronger."

(Emphasis on the bold part)

Game mechanics aside, considering that god Osamodas didn't gift his disciples with gobgobs well before or during Dofus (possible future retconning aside), means that it is possible that Oghrest's Chaos had some part to play during it's creation.

I don't play Dofus, so I have no idea where an Osa's summons exists or comes from until its summoned, but I do know that they didn't have gobgobs in Dofus.
Thanks, this is the kind of stuff that helps clarify it a bit. And you're correct: we didn't have GobGobs in the Dofus Era. Back then, it was a connection to stuff that kind of... teleported in the monster from elsewhere. (Osamodas Dimension? Other places in the World? I don't know)

There was an episode of Kerubim, with an Osamodas who was rather terrible at summoning the requisite creatures into battle. She had to eventually find another way to ...create... the creatures she wanted to control, right on the spot. This implies that there is at least some minimum level of difficulty in getting a creature to the battlefield, even when the Primordial Dofus were in balance. Add in the destruction and disruption of Ogrest, and I can easily imagine it becoming nearly impossible without a lot of time and preparation, which would have made it impractical in the extreme for a battle.

It's no wonder that a more direct, readily available symbiotic relationship became the new norm. It's probably why we see Drhellers running around with enutrofs, and stuff like that, as well. I wouldn't be surprised if the Living Bag, Living Shovel and Living Chest had been somehow affected as well. Perhaps that stuff works fine in Enurado itself, like the robot chests, on a more permanent basis. But that is an area with at least some core divine stability and power inherent in it, and you'd kind of expect the very best stuff the class is capable of to be represented there.


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posté Yesterday - 09:08:22 | #2
Hmm I thought this would have been the place to ask to get the lore lined up about it. I can't remember what source I came across, but there were multiple mentions specifically on how the methods of summoning changed for Osas. TBH I don't keep screen shots of everything I read and come across, but I know it was out there, and I found it to be very interesting, at the time.

Maybe someone who keeps closer track of that kind of stuff would know the sources. I don't know if, at this point, it was an ingame book, a devblog/backround post, ingame npc text, or what. But there have been definite shifts in the in-world reasons given for the changes in summoning over the ages.

Don't get me wrong: I'm pretty sure, like the eliotropes, that first things are made, and only later are there ever created "reasons" for them to exist. I'm pretty sure the GobGob was a "nice design" long before it was a "solution to the Chaos as it impacted the ability to summon across dimensions". That still doesn't change the fact that there is a story behind it, somewhere out there, one way or another.

It's pretty clear the GobGob is there for more than looks; and i am 100% sure it was given to Osamodases to make up for the increased difficulty of cross dimensional summoning, post-chaos.

Anyways, yeah. If anyone has the files or really tracks like everything written ever, that'd be nice. But aside from that, what's your opinion on the possibility of summoning returning to normal, post-ogrest? (assuming he stays away from the dofuses)

I have two primary hypotheses:

1) The Chaos was a kind of energy field, and once the Primordial Dofuses are removed from Ogrest, things should eventually calm down, and make interdimensional summoning a practical reality during battle.

2) The Chaos caused permanent damage to the readily-accessed, battle-capable, short-notice Summoning practiced by Osamodas and other classes, during the Dofus Era and earlier. Things might get "better" after the end of the Chaos, but the system itself is too broken to ever be as practical as the "keep your familiars with you, in the material realm" method of Summoning that has mostly replaced it.


Any other ideas on what might change, post-chaos? (even though we won't likely see it in-game, the repercussions are still an interesting though experiment)


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posté Yesterday - 07:10:11 | #3

Quote (Major-Caligari @ 30 January 2015 02:01) *
I wonder if gameplay mechanics aren't just gameplay mechanics sometimes
Well of course: things like monster seeds and such.

But the variant forms of Summoning are clearly backed up by the lore across Dofus and Wakfu. I don't have all the references, but it's been pretty well known for some time now that the Chaos interfered with things like Summoning, and thus various alternate forms became the new norm. I'm just curious if that "damage" to the old system was permanent, or if, with the possible calm after the end of the OVAs, the old system might be a viable alternative again.


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posté Yesterday - 01:56:16 | #4

Quote (-Celio- @ 30 January 2015 00:41) *

Quote (TommyTrouble @ 29 January 2015 21:29) *
I'm curious, after the end of the OVA, when Ogrest gives up the Dofus, would the traditional Summoning methods employed back in the Dofus Era become easier, again?
what summoning methods? Please explain what are you trying to say.
Compare the old methods of how Osamodas used to summon, or the summoning of the Dopples. If I recall, this was a teleportation, or some kind of astral summoning. For instance, the old Osamodas, pre-Chaos, could just summon mobs, and spam them. The Chaos disrupted that capability, and led to the modern Osamodas we see today- tied in directly with the GobGob, wich ingests and stores Summons for the Osamodas.

It's entirely possible that we don't have Class Dopples due to Ogrest's Chaos, as well (though this would depend on the lore surrounding how, exactly, those lv 200 Dopples arrived on the battlefield, after you cast the spell)

Anyways, the old way of summoning, that was so prevalent pre-Chaos.... I wonder if it will become practical again?


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posté Yesterday - 00:04:35 | #5
Nerf everything, except me, so I can always win at PvP.

Basically that's the solution.


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posté January 29, 2015, 21:29:48 | #6
I'm curious, after the end of the OVA, when Ogrest gives up the Dofus, would the traditional Summoning methods employed back in the Dofus Era become easier, again?


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posté January 29, 2015, 05:13:23 | #7
I'm actually really happy how they tied in so much of this to the OVA. It's going to be a lot of work to flesh out the potential storylines, but it's good to see them actually making the effort.

I'm curious to see what neat new stuff they'll come up with in 2015, and how it will all be made to work together. Sometimes, it's fun to watch all this come together, right before our eyes, rather than just having a single, master planned finished product with inflexible rules.

It might be a little frustrating to understand right now, but the added depth to the World is very welcome.


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posté January 28, 2015, 19:29:23 | #8
Also, could anyone translate that first page of the book, which is still in French?

(Also, in b4 children of gods are all Eliotropes)


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posté January 27, 2015, 21:24:28 | #9
I'm looking forward to the Hero System. It helps patch up holes in almost-full groups. What's not to love about that?


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posté January 27, 2015, 03:49:59 | #10
No snow storm down here in Los Angeles, and I logged in just fine. It might be a local issue for you, though. Best wishes.


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posté January 26, 2015, 23:17:46 | #11
Welcome to Wakfu I run a Guild on Nox, and I've been playing Dofus since 2005, and Wakfu since 2012. If you need some questions answered and maybe some new friends ingame, let me know. Maybe you'll find a nice fit

Best wishes to you, and have tons of fun!


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posté January 26, 2015, 15:44:26 | #12
Sabi siad, a while back, that American credit cards aren't being accepted at Ankama. You'll need to use PayPal or other Gift Cards and such.

Apparently, stuff like CVS Pharmacy and even Subway gift cards all use this common standard called O bucks. It looks like an orange pokemon ball. Apparently, Ankama decided to still accept money that way, though only up to $20.00 at a time.

So yeah, we can basically count out the "buy-ogrines, get-promo-items", for the most part. But on the other hand, nearly everyone lives near a business with a big gift card kiosk.

Good luck.


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posté January 26, 2015, 15:37:41 | #13
It's still only about $6.00 to play Dofus or Wakfu each month. Dunno what you're spending that last 2-3 dollars on, but I'm sure Ankama appreciates it!


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posté January 26, 2015, 09:01:45 | #14
Unfortunately, the real backgrounds for the haven bags are so dim and "distant" that you can't really see what they're supposed to be, unless you're really lucky.

The tofu one, if I recall, actually has a tofu patch on it, but you'd almost never know it, due to how dim it is, and how it's usually blocked off by the haven gems you place.

Thanks for showing these backgrounds. Maybe they could add some to storyline achievements: you get different backgrounds to go with winning certain titles in-game. Something nice and visible, to commemorate your favorite moments ingame.


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posté January 26, 2015, 03:39:08 | #15

Quote (Kikuihimonji @ 26 January 2015 03:34) *

Quote (Duzy-Sadysta @ 26 January 2015 03:18) *
Or else add more items into "blessing" loot table, and let them scale with enu level.
Or better yet revamp whole water branch to do something else then applying Broke, AND make this passive give Enutrof a (higher then now) chance to apply Broke with any spell it use to hit enemy (including earth and fire, i don't like to break challanges "do not use water element" when i want to make target drop Pouch).
Even if it capped out at 10% Broke/Pouch chance on non-water spells, that'd be more than enough of a buff for me. It'd allow me to be in Zerker mode and still hunt treasures. That would be AWESOME!


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posté January 25, 2015, 23:06:42 | #16
I actually really enjoy Enutrof's Blessing.


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posté January 25, 2015, 20:35:36 | #17

Quote (AlcoholicBeaver @ 25 January 2015 14:23) *
Nox.
Nox is full of people, and thriving!

Make sure you're playing during the hours America and Canada are usually awake, though- this is the North American Server, after all  


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posté January 24, 2015, 21:35:24 | #18
It seems to me that it's more about making friends and having fun than achieving maximum bonuses.

If I'm having fun and enjoying my time in a Guild, that eventually leads to earning bonuses and making progress. It's a wonderful system: the more you interact and help, the stronger the Guild itself becomes.


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posté January 24, 2015, 01:26:27 | #19
My Fogger Isn't Getting Spell XP past lv 165 Here is a template you can use for your bug reports:

Character name: Ermahgerd Rerberts
Date and time: 23 Javian 972 (23/01/15) 17:22 Server Time (1-23-2015, 4:22PM Pacific Standard Time)
Map: Enurado areas
Server: Nox

Bug description: My Foggernaut is not gaining any spell XP for using spells in combat. Character XP still earned, however.
Reproducibility process:
Log my fogger. Try to get spell XP. It probably won't work. I don't have any idea how, or why, this is happening. Hence the bug report.

Screenshots: 


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posté January 23, 2015, 22:06:34 | #20
Still, it's really nice to see them touching up spells on classes that aren't due for the immediate revamp.

Here's hoping that they'll do some interim touching-up for all the classes, to tide us over until the official revamps.


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