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posté Today - 12:44:21 | #1
There's an npc in Xelorium in Dofus who apparently maintays the network, she's simply called "Zaap Mistress" iirc. I'll check later if any quest goes into detail.


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posté Today - 11:37:13 | #2
Otomai's disciples aren't a class, they're a society to which members of different classes belong... And Otomai himself was supposed do not follow any god in particular, accorfing to RyF's early from a few pages ago, though he was a follower of Feca initially (I guess this makes him some sort of scientific ecumenist?). Either way, it has nothing to do with being a separate class. It'd make more sense to assume that Ouginaks might be worshipping an aspect of Ecaflip focused on misfortune (though it's equally likely that they follow a minor god for some reason associated with Ecaflip to such a degree that he appears in Ecaflip's Tarot).

Pandora isn't an Otomai disciple herself, she's, as the very quest in which she's introduced states, a DIMENSIONAL VOYAGER. Not Eliatrope, not Foggernaut, not Otomai's Disciple. Voyagers have own portal technology, unrelated to the Eliatrope one (zaaps), that's why the divine dimensions have completely different kind of portal as a zaap equivalent.

Otomai's disciples don't have much to do with Eliatrope technology either, as far as I know, they're biologists, not archeologists, and it's hard to find Eliatropes to dissect. Archeology is the domain of bwork explorers, first and foremost - or at least they're the only organization introduced so far focused on it. Quite amazing considering how dull stock orcs tend to be. I assume you're basing this on the npc from Shusnitch Reef? She's a nod to the Dofus Manga and the Feca brothers who openeded the first portal to the shushu realm, as such she's not really a good example of what the disciples work on.

If we'd assume that being consdiered an idol of some organization makes you a god, Hyrkul should be a god for centuries, being the idol of Brakmarian military (same goes for Oto Mustam). Or the Explorancient, being the Voyagers' spiritual guru. Or Merkator, for reforging Foggernauts into what they're now. It simply makes no sense. Besides, as I said, as far as we know Otomai himself doesn't seem to be too much of a pious person, which'd make his ascension sort of hard... It's not even the sphere of speculatory fanfiction, it's just impossible.

EDIT: unless Masqs would start worshipping Cornu Mollu instead of believing in the power of the masks alone, I'd say they're purely an offshot of Sadida rather than something between them and Iops, since Iop wasn't involved in creation of the masks. Cornu Mollu IS closely tied to their origin, as we already discussed once, iirc, but I think it's a bit too little to say that they're an offshot of anything but Sadidas.


This post has been edited by Major-Caligari - October 20, 2014, 11:39:51.
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posté Yesterday - 22:07:15 | #3
Yeah, those really do look like Joris's pet.

Don't see a reason why to feature estabilished characters in the ovas if they serve no purpose apart from being mind-controlled puppets, to be honest. But hey, at elast they didn't give either of them carrot heads.


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posté Yesterday - 12:08:51 | #4
Something that's almost like a story but still only counts a character profile supplement, I guess

Thanks for all the kind words, didn't notice the latest reply (I blame law school). ;v


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posté Yesterday - 00:36:58 | #5

Quote (Jade1 @ 19 October 2014 00:29) *
Xelorium is the last dimension this year........voyager. All makes sense
xelor sub class
There's Osamodas dimension planned for December, at least in Dofus. ;v


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posté October 18, 2014, 23:32:39 | #6

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Why are they making a class that does pretty much the same or more than Eliatropes do? They even control Wakfu (¿?!)
Because it'd ruin the continuity if they were Eliatropes. Also all classes control wakfu, magic IS a refiend form of wakfu manipulation...


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posté October 18, 2014, 22:52:12 | #7
Personally I think it's possible they're not an aspect at all - Dofus shows them as an inter-species organization, after all; in Wakfu all Voyagers shown so far have similar physical traits, though (albinism...).

I don't think the portrait is a good indicator - there are portraits of Goultard, Djaul and the dragons as well in the Xelorium musem, among other things.


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posté October 18, 2014, 22:21:53 | #8
...no? Sometimes I seriously wonder where some of you get those ideas, is this one of those wikias run by people from 4chan?


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posté October 18, 2014, 22:15:44 | #9
Wastly superior design to Eliatropes, tbh. Nice to see the lack of fire branch as it makes the amount of classes with specific branches a tiny bit more balanced.

Can we start a petition to erease Eliatropes from the background, though? Now we know that Voyagers can do all Eliatropes do, but their background and designs are superior, and they blend naturally with the setting, unlike Eliatropes. A retcon would make everything perfect. c: Also a show about Pandora instead of a show about that Eliatrope kid, as I suggested elsewhere already. c:


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posté October 18, 2014, 22:12:11 | #10
Still can't get over this

Eliatropes are some bullshit cliche race of elves, just ~~in space~~ and Yugo is essentially a guide to how not to write a child protagonist (Aang from Avatar is the opposite), with little to no interesting background and it's hard to see how are they even linked to the setting. Basically a pointless, poorly written deus ex machina which attracted some of the worst people in this fandom I've ever met, including genuine pedophiles.

Now we learn that Voyagers are essentially an expy. Made to get rid of the PLZ ADD PLAYABEL ELIATROPZ threads made by 12-year-olds. Voyagers have pretty neat designs, most of those we know are well-rounded, interesting characters, their niche in the setting feels natural, as there's a plenty of societies or trade unions working with different kinds of magic/technology blending, and instead of introducing us to some poorly written peudo-scifi garbage like the Eliatropes did, they allow the writers to explore something that was there from the beginning, the domains of the gods. As I already said once: expy better than the original. Can we make Pandora the face of the franchise instead of Yugo? And then get a show about Pandora's and Chad's travels? Because it'd be 10 times as interesting as anything faturing Yugo and 46 times as interesting as the upcoming ovas.


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posté October 18, 2014, 21:25:41 | #11
Saw that coming.

You know what's hilarious? Voyagers are ten times more interesting than Eliatropes. Expy becomes better than the original.

@Grimack: I don't think those two are so strictly related. We have 4 chapters to go, and the hint from Dofus that Pandora is probably the Explorancient, I think it's something else than just "Voyagers will be playable".


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posté October 17, 2014, 22:37:36 | #12
Would be great if this was possible.

You see, TT, the problem is that there's apparently a plan to make the game - and all other media published currently - link to the ovas in as many ways as possible. Ogrest manga has hints regarding the ovas. A low level stupid f2p area in Dofus features a ton of ova stupidity. It's stimply too hard to treat it this way and apparently Ankama wants to essentially make it impossible. :/

Personally I'm going to ignore the ovas, though. We can pretend that it's the paralell unverse where Rushu send Oto Mustam, because otherwise it makes no sense.


This post has been edited by Major-Caligari - October 17, 2014, 22:59:23.
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posté October 17, 2014, 18:54:48 | #13
Update: Ruel gets no character development in the ovas! Who's surprised?

Also Amalia recieves character regression.

Grufon's not even mentioned anywhere, but I guess it's time to get used to it, it's definitely too much to expect a de facto main character to get some focus, right?

I'm wondering why Ankama decided that they need any main characters besides Yugo and Tristepin if the rest of the BoT serves as background in the ovas at best, seemingly. Heck, why does even the franchise exist, if the entire ova is apparently those two doing stuff and simultaneously ravaging all the existing background, what's the point of devoting time and money to development of anything else?

Tl;dr I'm fairly certain you shouldn't expect too muchin regards to Maskemane and Otomai, pray that they at least will preserve their key character traits unlike they did with Harebourg.


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posté October 17, 2014, 11:22:01 | #14
A moment of silence for contunity.
For comparsion:


So yeah, the rumor about Harebourg suddenly changing height with no explanation given is true. How does it make any sense is beyond me, though on the other hand the ova design doesn't feature any other elements that'd even vaguely imply it's the same character (hell, not even elements that'd suggest it's a Xelor - no bandages, just some godforsaken ice carrot...), so I'm not sure why I've tried to believe that it might be a fake rumor (even though all 3 sources of first episode leaks confirmed that). :/

I know I've been ranting about this a lot, maybe even a bit too much, both in this thread and elsewhere, but it kinda sucks when you get excited that your favorite character will get a canon voice and all that stuff and then it turns out you're getting some garbage which doesn't even have too much to do with the source material instead. :/ The ova design doesn't even look like the same character anymore - different body type, different height, different clothes, both eyes visible... And then there's the abmyssal characterization. I sincerly hope people who waited for Maskemane or Otomai or whoever else is supposed to show up won't be equally disappointed. 8C


This post has been edited by Major-Caligari - October 17, 2014, 11:29:17.
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posté October 16, 2014, 16:29:21 | #15
Well, yeah, that's a reasonable approach.

We've seen two in posession of a mysterious carrot (sigh) and two held by the Ecaflip statue, assuming that those aren't the same, it leaves 2.

In theory this could mean that the remaining two would be Yugo's and Chibi's since both siblings who would be contained within are alive.

Phaeris and his sister are both dead, so is the duo from IoW, so those two are bound to be among the dofus we've seen. This leaves Glip (unless Balthazar died in the meanwhile as well and they're both within the Dofus) and Shinonome (somewhere in the hellish dimension full of Eliatrope larvas).

EDIT: those mind control blobs or whatever on Maskemane and supposed Percimol remind me a bit of the non-jelly Bibliza mobs. Whose jelly growths were supposed to be an adaptation to the unstable nature of the island or something, iirc.

Inb4 Emperor Jellix is actually behind it all. Also he's a demigod.


This post has been edited by Major-Caligari - October 16, 2014, 17:35:41.
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posté October 16, 2014, 14:32:48 | #16
Ova summary says they need Eliatrope dofus which have disappeared and two show up in posession of Harebourg (who for some reason isn't as fond of hoarding this kind of stuff as you'd expect him), so those have to be Eliatrope dofus.

Consistency isn't something I'd expect to see in the ovas, so I guess some magical deux ex machina will explain any potential color changes... Or maybe it won't be adressed at all, like a lot of stuff doesn't seem to be explained. Which gives even more reasons to not take the ovas seriously which is fine in my book.


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posté October 16, 2014, 12:19:21 | #17
An interesting approach to balancing Osas would be learning that 1 vs. 1 pvp isn't exactly the best way to base your opinions on class balance on.

On a serious note, all those countless "pls nerf class which beat me in pvp" threads prove is that giving pvp any meaning is basically the worst idea in a long while, since it adds nothing but drama and some insignificant ego boosts.


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posté October 16, 2014, 12:08:05 | #18
No wonder that those Dofus aren't with Ogrest, they're Eliatrope, not Primordial, as far as we know...

Nobody has a clue how did they end up where they are in the ovas, it simply makes no sense, the Wakfu manga was supposed to explain where most of the Eliatrope dofus were, but it didn't really do much apart from making Jiva incompetent and adding a romance subplot which is essentially glorufing stalking (kinda hard to interpret Ulgrude's actions as anything else). Though events of the Wakfu manga in general at least try to make sense, as long as we'll forget about the entire friendzone segment, unlike the ovas.

I can't identify any of those two (or those Harebourg is holding when he's shown for a moment for that matter) because we don't really know how the individual Eliatrope dofus look like apart from Qilby's and Chibi's. My wild guess would be that one of those might be Phaeris' and what's-her-name-female-Eliatrope, since the color is pretty similar.

Pretty sure the explanation will be some magical deus ex machina, probably involving immortality, since the entire ova plot concists of this, inconsistencies and probably even worse things dwelling in the depths beneath the spoilers we already have. :/


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posté October 16, 2014, 00:37:20 | #19
The statue looks a bit like Ush to me, my wild guess is that it's something from the Ecaflip dimension (so episode 2, most likely). I wouldn't hold my hopes high for neither Maskemane nor Percimol, since neither of them was even referenced in the summary we got a few weeks ago (though none of them has a vegetable-shaped helmet, luckily). In the best case, they'll follow the same path as Darkness Knight (relatively in character, but also totally out of place), I guess.

Speaking of priorities... Anyone noticed Louis shows up for a second? I guess this means we'll see Bonta for a moment, considering the ending of ToK, though it kinda surprises me that it essentially looks like a huge slums district.

 


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posté October 16, 2014, 00:00:38 | #20
The problem is that Harebourg has less bandages than Maskemane, not that Maskemane has bandages on. Bandages are finy by default in my book, but that's another story.

I'm not sure why he looks like a ragdoll, though, hopefully it's just an attempt at making him more cartoony and not some bullshit zombie subplot. Though on the other hand the supposed Percimol has a blank stare which also gives an undead impression


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