So far this sounds awesome.
Not sure about being rewarded for shaking up the ecosystem though, say my main focus for leveling was a certain monster, and that population was low so im a good boy and dont kill any of that type. But someone else comes along and just kills them. They win in everyway, Exp, Stasis rewards etc. Same for gathering/farming. Maybe i misread it, but yeah if it works like this, bad times.
On a side note, if there is the same problem with kama farmers, as there is on dofus. Does this mean there wont be anything left in the f2p area.

The blog-post points to the French blog for the posts by Daryl (trying the same link in the English blog just drops you back to the front section).

The equivalent posts on the English side are:
Harmonising the Wakfu
Flight of Stasis
The Immobile Journey
The Great Cosmic Omelette (something looks a bit messed up on this one)
The Dead Stone
Understanding the Wakfu
The Green Life

I hate to say this but "Stasis" is a term which means effectively stability. Which is the complete opposite of the definition used in the blog, and actually the same thing as "wakfu's" definition. "Chaos" or just Destruction may be more appropriate as an opposite of "Wakfu". Of course "stasis" can exist if you just destroy everything, so nothing changes in the future simply because nothing exists, but the same would apply to the balance that the "Wakfu" concept is supposed to represent.

Of course it's all rather ambiguous, with Wakfu (the game), Wakfu Points, and Wakfu (the "balance" concept).

This post has been edited by GoldfishGod: 5 Jun 2009, 20:48

Is that purple lightsaber going to be in the Closed-Beta?



EDIT: Refering to these:


This post has been edited by GetInTheCar-IGotCandy: 6 Jun 2009, 02:22

Is wak-a-foo interesting me again?

they better be in the closed beta, i mean who needs a scythe when you've got a light saber. vshooom vshommmm.

also goldfish just blew my mind, i dont think i was able to process anything he said.

It is nice to see a new devblog update about the game though, the system is starting to shape up, lets hope the closed beta tightens up the loose ends. I am intrigued.

This post has been edited by xxsevxx: 7 Jun 2009, 06:57

Ok... so to put it simply: Is there a translation you think for Wakfu? Nope! So it stayed the same in french and english.

What i mean by that is that the problem being that in french, the word "stasis" does not exist! It does in english and greek though... Closest thing we have in french is actually the word "stase" basically used in med.

As for all non-existing word (or game word anyway ), the definition can be whatever they want!

Hope it helps you!

lol as always you do make the most amusing posts Talentyre...is this another Zidrune I see (and yes, that anti-insult filter IS a good thing isn't it).

Anywho, on to business. First, I am loving the organization of the ''balance sheets''. After all, the balance between groups of monsters, the balance between groups of resources and the indication of the environmental pollution really is only feasible in a 'scale' fashion.

Now the balance between groups is something interesting to see when it comes to the Tofu only, or Gob only areas. Then does it come down to the subgroups (as in between say a Big Tofu and a Baby Tofu...thus if a Big Tofu is solely hunted then the scale gets skewed to chaos)?

Then we come to the groupings of resources. And, well, it is explained in the greatest detail so I don't have any question, just more of a comment. I can't even imagine the system you guys have put in place to enact something like that 'Thistle' example. After all, it seems very dynamic that one plant can overgrow the system and prevent the growing of other plants altogether. This in addition to the ecosystem balance in terms of area specificity is very admirable indeed.

Before delving on into 'pollution', first I want to ask one thing about the Wakfu/Stasis gauge. Now of all the things that are said of this gauge (as in the whole ''zen'' description that comes with doing what is right), is the only actual function of this bar to show our alignment towards either lawful or unlawful within the overworld? Now I do understand about the skills you will receive, etc. etc. But I just wish to know about the what level of the gauge between Wakfu and Chaos will the all-important PVP become active. After all, if the scale is all the way towards Stasis, then that seem like it is cutting it a little close due to the destruction that the person would have already done. Now this is me just blabbering for the sake of blabbering but if there is any sanity to what I just said, then feel free to explain the control system of players on players and the environment based on level. In addition, is it an absolute rule that if the resource turns 'brown/black' on the scale, they can never be brought back or is there an unmentioned skill given by having perfect Wakfu and the crystal as well to be able to bring them back (the best I saw so far is to ''balance or reorganize'' the ecosystem, not restore it. So do tell on this rather important point.
Oh and how can PVP render the area that is unstable into further chaos when the PVP is happening for the sole reason to restore the balance... unless ofcourse you are talking about certain kinds of PVP but the comment does not seem to point to this so yeeeeah.

And now pollution. First, I know it says that you guys have yet to fully explain it but I do have one question: With the first two types of environmental fluctuations (critters and crops), actions can be taken by other players to correct the overall environmental stability. But how is this to be done for pollution (other than the influence of the dynamic environment or the rule of the governor)? After all, if this is a direct result of crafting, then unless there is an 'anti-crafting' skill to reduce this negative influence, then the problem could get dire indeed.

Wow that was a big-un. Hope you lot are still awake

The French Blog uses "Stasis", and the word itself originates from Greek/New Latin on which French is partially based. So yes, I think it does exist in a way, as much as "Sinistro" does.

Of course, the french version of Google, drops you into the French version of Wikipedia, which has
This makes sense in the Wakfu context.

Of course, it doesn't help that the word DOES exist, in one of the most well-known languages on the planet (as a concept of stability of spinning plates).

So its status as a "made up word", and particular meaning, is bound to be somewhat debatable.

This post has been edited by GoldfishGod: 7 Jun 2009, 15:00

Ok, i,ll admit I didn't get to the wikipédia for the information, I've looked it up in a dictionnary... Sorry to say, but i'll stick to the dictionnary instead!

And yes, the word does exist in greek. Actually, the franch word "stase" is based on it! But there doesn't appear to be the exact word "stasis".

And now I am wondering why i am saying all of that since i do tend to agree that the information from qii tend to say the correct explanation for the game... :/ Don't mind me, must have been on my "writing hour" or something like that!


Gold Down: hehe That is because we were having a discussion about it on the french side of the forum... and when I checked here it kindda wanted to take that direction so that is why I talked about it!

This post has been edited by ElfShadow: 7 Jun 2009, 15:25

Don't worry, I didn't even think to check what Google.fr and fr.wikipedia.com would produce when "stasis" was put in until you'd said something. Which have definitions that at least show the thinking behind the blog-post's definition.

This post has been edited by GoldfishGod: 7 Jun 2009, 15:24

Talentyr just dropped some more information on the french forum answering some interrogation, gimme a sign if you want the info, i'll simply edit this message so as not to post for naught!


Edit for Zero: I just felt lazy.... didn't wanted to translate them if at least 1 person didn't seem interested! And no, I won't ask it each time, but I'll see when I have some free time and do feel like it! Basically meaning my english is ahving some problem nowadays.... not using it enough and technical word are something of a problem sometimes too!

As for the where, i,ll post them here.... since it's kindda part of the devblog too!


Edit2 for Zero: Just check back to make sure you needed some info on the principle of the Wakfu/Stasis bar and it,s functionning.. yeah well... I did hate having to re-read your post higer-up... gets my brain dizzy! You spin my head right round?

This post has been edited by ElfShadow: 8 Jun 2009, 16:05

OOO OOO, here's the sign! lol seriously though, please feel free to post those responses as it is unlikely that the devs would answer the questions posted here (unfortunate, really). But yeah, I suppose you intend to ask each time but I for one would love it if you would post them all (those at present and those to come) at your leisure as there are undoubtedly a fair share of people who would love to see them anyway.
Oh and I suppose it is your call whether or not you wish to post the new info here or on the General Discussion forum. Not really that important of a choice but hey, might as well throw it out there.

P.S. Thanks in advance.

Ok, so here are the post the devs did on the french forum. Please de excuse the mistake I might have made while writing!

You will find my personnal commentary in italic.

Oh! Yeah right... I’ll avoid transalting all that is non-essential for time-saving purpose. And the quote is well… just to make it clear for the presentation more than anything….



Yeah well… if you are wondering about the last paragraph, it is simply beacause they want people to feel fre not to choose to be on the Wakfu side or the Stasis side. so they are thinking way to compensate so that a Stasis player, for exemple, won’t automatically overpower a Neutral caracter.

Feel free to ask question, I am not a dev, but if i can find an answer or explain it otherwise, I’ll do so!

P.S. Almost forgot! Since I am mostly on the french forum, send me a PM if i've been a couple of days not to answer anything... But please... make it so that only ONE person send the PM.... I'd hate being flooded!





For those of you wondering about the trees / plants / crops you must refer yourself to the picture:



In oder, under Ressources, you’ll find: Crops / Plants / Trees

So, since the arrow is pointing down, meaning it is missing trees in the area, even in a forest of ash you can put some hazelnut tree to re-equilibrate the area.


In the next edit: The story of the missing paragraph!

This post has been edited by ElfShadow: 8 Jun 2009, 18:30

This game is a very complex game that I would love to try.Love the idea of Ecosystem and how we have to watch what we do just like in real life.

"We will make it so that the action that you perform in your satchel affects in a way or another the surrounding areas."

I don't especially understand that statement in regards to what you do "in your satchel" but this could just be another way of saying what people would do in the environment. If not, please feel free to correct me.



"recycling allow you to destroy crafted objet to cleanse it and will give you something back for doing so."

Well now this answers my question about pollution. Only I am wondering how to recycle. I figure it means to reuse the same object to make yet another object but that would still be using some resources for this purpose now wouldn't it.



"You must remember that the Wakfu/Stasis bar will have a slow evolution which will be proportional to the consequence of your action. Meaning that it’s not by crafting some object that you will end up being a complete Stasis player or by regulating the monster of one area that you will end up being SuperWakfuMan!"

lol yes, SuperWakfuMan is an awesome comment. And I am glad that they are making it a rather challenging thing to get to either end of the spectrum. After all, I would not want to get to Stasis just due to a lapse in judgment of what I am leveling/equipment farming on and neither do I wish to be fully 'Wakfud' just by maintaining balance. This gives something else to work for in addition to just the pure character leveling concept.



"Feel free to ask question, I am not a dev, but if i can find an answer or explain it otherwise, I’ll do so!"

Well other than what you have answered thus far, if you see any answers to the questions and/or comments I posted 6 messages above this last one (on '7 Jun 2009, 11:22') then please feel free to answer away .



"So, since the arrow is pointing down, meaning it is missing trees in the area, even in a forest of ash you can put some hazelnut tree to re-equilibrate the area."

Oh, this is certainly a new piece of info that I didn't expect. I figured putting a hazelnut tree in a forest of ash would mess with the environmental stability (from the game's perspective) but it seems that the devs thought the opposite. I figure it then all has to do with moderation. So planting several hazelnut trees would destabilize the system but one is not altogether significant. This is just a guess though.

"In your satchel" refers to the possibility of having crafting machines in your dimensional bag. Since using a crafting machine usually has a stasis impact on the surrounding territory the devs want to make even actions performed in your home change the outside balance.

Recycling seems to be breaking crafted objects back into their component parts or ingredients.

As for hazelnut trees in an ash forest, it looks like "a tree is just a tree." Having more complex ecosystems would be awesome but time consuming to develop as they would have to track individual ecosystems. So any tree can raise the Tree category, any crop can raise the Crop category, any plant can raise the Plant category.

Yeah I thought as much for all your points Eran, but I figured I'd pose the questions anyway. And hey, if I'm wrong, SO ARE YOU MWAHAHAHA...*cough* uh..moving on...

And there I was, trying to be cryptic....

Ah well! I am here for the bad news only anyway!

I don't know when you'll have the official translation of the devblog article (Yeah, I won't translate that much sorry! You,d be missing important screen anyway!

Basically, the closed Beta will be re-schedule at an ulterior date... And no, we didn't had any clue whatsoever except for the fact that people are going to be able to test 1 of the dungeon at the AC4.

hahaha well I am not even surprised anymore. I am a little put out that this info has been on the French forums but has yet to be told to us English players. And I figured that the Beta would run the whole game but (if I got your message right) we are restricted to only a very small portion of the land... oh well, even this should provide a good representation of load capabilities with the servers.